Epeidh arga h grhgora tha prepei na exoume mia protash gia to ti tha valoume sto dhmosio ki epeidh to pragma shkwnei syzhthsh exw merikous provlhmatismous pou thelw na moirastw mazi sas kai sigoura pistevw oti oi mailing lists einai arketa kalos xwros gia na syzhtisoume to thema. Den mporoun pistevw na leipoun ap' th syzhthsh kai oi pleon armodioi thesmika gia to thema, o kos. Karounos kai o kos. Spinelis, eks allou exoume vrethei mazi arketes fores kai tous thewrw antrhwpous ths koinothtas. An valoume loipon open source sto dhmosio tha eimaste h prwth xwra sthn Evrwph pou tha kanei kati tetoio, mexri stigmhs oti exei ginei sto ekswteriko exei ginei se epipedo nomarxias/dhmou (px. Limux) kai oxi se ethniko epipedo. Poloi theloun na paei strava ayth h prospatheia, poloi theloun sto prwto security leak h sto prwto crash na vgoun kai na poun "na ayto einai to open source" klp (merika papagalakia hdh exoun poiasei douleia -> http://www.tanea.gr/default.asp?pid=14&ct=11&artid=4546037). Sthn periptwsh ths M$ mexri twra krazame mia sygekrimenh etairia kai ayth h etairia analamvane kai thn eythinh gia to leitourgiko ths, sto open source den yparxei kati tetoio, an kati paei strava to louzomaste oloi mas, linux, openbsd, you name it. Den tha ginoume mono rompa ws xwra an kati paei strava, tha einai kai megalo plhgma gia to open source diethnws. Gi' ayto to logo pistevw oti to thema den afora mono thn kyvernhsh kai tous armodious alla olous mas. Exoume loipon arketous tomeis na psaksoume (feel free to add): a) Hw/system architecture, theloume px. specs sto hw gia na einai symvato me linux xwris xrhsh binary drivers. Yparxei ayth h dynatothta na orisoume eks arxhs specs kai na kanoume ananewsh eksoplismou ? Theloume workstations h dumb terminals (yparxei kai to thema ths eksoikonomhshs energeias px) ? Ti dynatothtes theloume na exei to hw ? Mporoume na aksiopoihsoume palious ypologistes h oi efarmoges pou xreiazomaste einai varies ? b) Ti efarmoges xreiazomaste ? Yparxoun kapoies custom efarmoges gia to dhmosio h einai oles web based opote theloume apla ena firefox ? Theloume na mporoun oi xrhstes na egathistoun programmata h einai kalytero na tous "kleidwsoume" se ena perivalon sygekrimeno ? Gia tis custom efarmoges efoson yparxoun exoume to source code gia na tis ksanagrapsoume gia linux px h theloun douleia from scratch ? Theloume aytes oi custom efarmoges na vgoun public kai open source h einai security risk ? c) Theloume en telei na trexoume linux/Open/Free(something) h mporoume na afisoume ta windows kai apla na valoume firefox / thunderbird kai open office ? Mhpws na ksekinhsoume etsi kai na prowthisoume th xrhsh open source leitourgikou stadiaka opws kanoun sto Limux ? An valoume mia dianomh linux poia einai h poio katallhlh ? Theloume mia custom dianomh gia to dhmosio opws exoun kanei sto Limux h oxi ? An pame gia custom dianomh tha kanoume ta panta maintain emeis (px gia logous security -vl ssp pie klp- ypostirizoume mono ta aparaithta programmata, kanoume maintain/monitor gia security issues kai den tous afhnoume na valoun tipote allo) h xrhsimopoioume kai ta paketa ths dianomhs pou tha xrhsimopoihsoume ws vash ? d) To authentication tha ginetai kentrika (se kapoion kentriko LDAP px) h topika (se servers pou tha yparxoun sta grafeia ths yphresias) ? Tha exoume usernames/passwords h kapoia certificate authority (pkcs11) me smartcards klp ? H mhpws theloume kati akoma poio custom (custom smartcard me kana atmel h kamia javacard pou tha kanei emulate to pkcs11 kai tha exei kai alla features -px. gpg card-) ? Ta logs pws tha ta kanoume handle ? Tha exoume topika admins h kentrika ? Tha prepei na proslhfthoun unixo-admins h mporoume na ekpaideysoume tous yparxontes kai ti gnwseis prepei na exoun ? e) Poios tha to stisei olo ayto kai poios tha kanei maintain ? Theloume ws koinothta na symvaloume ethelontika px kanontas support sto kep h thn yphresia ths perioxhs mas h den mporoume na analavoume thn eythinh kai theloume kapoia etairia na to kanei ? Yparxoun tetoies etairies sthn Ellada pou na exoun thn aparaithth texnognwsia ? Theloume ayto na minei sto ypourgeio px. se kapoia kainouria yphresia ? To theloume poio open ki an nai pws ? f) Ti exoume gia na doulepsoume ? Poia einai h katastash ayth th stigmh, px ta kep kserw oti trexoun Redhad enterprize + oracle klp kai einai web based, me tis ypoloipes yphresies ti ginetai ? Einai oles se ena diktyo (syzefkshs px) h se diasparta ? Ta diktya ayta einai private h pernane panw apo internet me kapoio vpn ? Ti security measures exoume px. apo antivirus, firewalls klp, arkoun h theloume ki alla ? Poios kanei handle to diktyo, kapoia etairia, o OTE, to ypourgeio ? Exw tis apopseis/protaseis mou sta parapanw alla tha hthela na dw kai apo poio empeirous ti proteinoun + kyriws tis apopseis twn kwn Karounou kai Spinelh. P.S.1 Plz as mh ksekinhsoume flame gia distros h linux vs BSD klp P.S.2 Epishs oxi allo flame hellug vs greeklug vs otideipote, to open-source den einai h grafeiokratia/kareklokratia alla h idea kai oi antrhwpoi pou thn trexoun P.S.3 Oute kommatiko flame P.S.4 Kai telos pantwn kanenos eidous flame !!! Eyxaristw gia to xrono sas ;-) -- GPG ID: 0xD21DB2DB As you read this post global entropy rises. Have Fun ;-) Nick