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Re: Format Odigon.

> > Proswpika protimw thn anathesh twn keimenwn se kapoion
> > para "syllogikh ergasia, o kathenas mia paragrafo kai tha bgei".
> > To open-source (h gia thn akribeia to bazaar model)
> > den efarmozetai epityxws pantoy me eykolia (h katholoy).
> > Gia thn akribeia, tha elega oti mporei na efarmostei
> > mono se poly perioristika domains (opws to programming),
> > kai oxi se polla dhmioyrgika domains me megales dynatothtes
> > ekfrashs.
> > Xmmm... ayth h skepsh mporei na paei poly makria.
> > Den einai ths stigmhs.
>
> omos gia "free" dimiourgies kai eidika
> gia to debian i diki sou prosopiki gnomi einai
> asxeti kai metraei i gnomi pou exei epileksei
> kai i ipoloipi koinotita
>
> oso gia tin dinatotita efarmogis tou bazaar model
> tha se kalousa na tsekareis ligo tis listes
> tou hellug (lists.hellug.gr)
> gia na diapistoseis oti kata diavoliko
> tropo emeis to kanoume kai douleuei
>
> kai vriskoume tropous sigkerasmou ton diaforetikwn apopsewn
>
> tin dedomeni stigmi omos milame gia kapoies "free" dimiourgies, oti leo
> kirios anaferetai sto
> debian book, gia to debian oxi apla einai aparaitito na iparxei the
> "bazaar philosophy"
> alla to debian kaliptetai kai apo "koinoniko symvolaio"

dev n8ela va mpw se autnv tnv koubevta, giati odngeitai se flame war, alla 
prepei va pw oti kata basn sumfwvw me tov Alexi. To Bazaar dev efarmozetai 
pavtou, kai to debian apexei polu apo to movtelo auto. Av kaveis to la8os kai 
deis to Debian ws eva megalo project, tote vai isws, alla dev eivai eva 
megalo project kai as legetai Debian Project. Alla dev leitourgei etsi. To 
Debian, oso kai av faivetai periergo, apartizetai apo 'individuals', atoma 
pou leitourgouv e8elovtika kai avalambavouv mikra projects pou auta 
apartizouv to 'Debian Project'. Opws to project gia to packaging tns glibc, 
tou GNU C/C++ compiler, tou X11R6, tou KDE, twv boot floppies, klp. Ola auta 
suvdeovtai kapws meta3u tous, alla eivai 3exwrista projects kai ave3artnta. 
Oi allages evos package, mporei va epnreasouv arvntika se snmeio katastrofiko 
kiolas eva allo, alla dev mporei va to stamatnsouv oute kav va to 
ka8usternsouv. Eva security fix gia tnv glibc, 8a bgei, kai as xalasouv ola 
ta X11. Bebaia, to pio pi8avov eivai va bgei eva migration method, alla auto 
eivai perav tns koubevtas.
To 8ema eivai oti eivai individuals kai eivai apisteuta duskolo va tous 
alla3eis n va epibaleis tnv gvwmn sou se kati. Tis perissoteres fores 
stnrizesai aplws stnv avwtern paideia pou exouv n perissoteroi (ws developers 
exouv kai diaforetikn avtimetwpisn sta pragmata) kai stnv pistn tous stn 
dnmokratikn fusn tou Debian. Prose3e, dnmokratikn fusn de snmaivei oti 
epibaleis tnv apopsn sou se kati. Kai psnforories sto Debian givovtai movo 
gia polu sobara 8emata, tis perissoteres fores oi armodioi avalambavouv 
-akomn kai me kivduvo va kavouv la8os- kapoia apofasn gia eva 8ema. Aplws 
priv -n meta- evnmerwvouv tous upoloipous developers gia tnv apofasn tous. 
Kai 3ekivav ta flame wars... ta opoia eivai apisteuta! Milame gia sfages kai 
logia pou DEN legovtai kavovika... Alla olws parado3ws to sustnma douleuei 
kai to Debian eivai eva apo ta kalutera distributions. Giati? Giati uparxouv 
orismeva atoma pou eivai leaders kai kavouv ta pragmata "opws prepei" xwris 
va rwtnsouv. Oi upoloipoi aplws ikavopoiouvtai me to va tous afnsouv va ta 
kavouv, kai fusika va dwsouv kamia sumbouln, parotruvsn n oti allo xreiastei 
- otav xreiastei.
Kai orismeva atoma, ovtws plnrwvovtai gia va kavouv kati apo to idio to 
Debian, n gia tnv akribeia to SPI (to idruma pisw apo to debian). Spavia, 
alla sumbaivei.
Apla 8elw va pw oti xwris leadership se orismeva 8emata, to open source dev 
leitourgei oso kala faivetai oti leitourgei. Ka8e megalo (open-source n mn) 
project exei kapoiov n kapoious pou leitourgouv ws odngoi.

-- 
Konstantinos Margaritis
Debian Developer





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