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Re: Workshop2 draft

Nick Niktaris wrote [edited]:
> Ο καιρός περνάει και ακόμα δεν έχουμε κάνει κάτι ουσιαστικό
> για το δεύτερο workshop.

Mh fobasai.  Opws leei ki o Kwstas, sta dyskola fainomaste.


> Αρχικά είναι η ημερομηνία.
> Η Infosystem όπως είδα από το site της Helexpo είναι 7-10 Οκτωβρίου οπότε
>  ίσως είναι καλό να γίνει 9-10 Οκτωβρίου

Nai, symfwnw ki egw gia Sabbatokyriako 9-10 Oktwbrioy.


> Χώρος;  Που θα γίνει;  Υπάρχουν προτάσεις;

Oxi mono protaseis :-)  Milhsa me ton Antiprytanh toy Pan. Makedonias,
mas paraxwrei thn antistoixh ypodomh me ayth pou eixame sto OPA
(kentro ypologistwn, aithoyses me theseis ergasias, aithoysa
paroysiasewn, klp.).  Ola ta boleyoyme... :-)

Gia toys mh gnwrizontes, to Pan. Makedonias einai kentrika,
epi ths Egnatias, dipla sth Ekthesh (kai ara thn Infosystem),
apenanti apo to Aristoteleio.


> Παρουσιάσεις θα έχουμε;

Ena pragma poy sigoyra proekypse apo to 1o workshop
einai oti o kosmos dipsaei gia paroysiaseis (perissotero
ki ap'to na katsei na doylepsei, alla siga-siga :-).
Elpizw epishs h empeiria oswn htan sto 1o workshop
na toys edeikse oti mia paroysiash gia ena thema poy ksereis
den einai megalh dyskolia, to koino den dagkwnei,
ki etsi na exoyme perissoteres protaseis gia paroysiaseis
(ki apo perissoteroys!).


> Ένα άλλο είναι τα θέματα

[anaferetai sta themata ergasias]
Ena allo symperasma toy prwtoy workshop einai oti kalo einai
na eimaste ligo pio organwmenoi ston tropo proseggishs
twn diaforwn thematwn.  Epishs oti o xronos poy exoyme gia doyleia
einai periorismenos (ews elaxistos).

Ws ek toytoy, proteinw na exoyme "ergasies" dyo eidwn:

- mini-workshops, gia eksoikeiwsh me texnologies,
   dhl. kati san "presentation" me hands-on use.
   Apo tis paroysiaseis toy 1oy workshop, gia paradeigma,
   tha mporoysan na einai tetoioy typoy apo to kdevelop
   mexri to poedit (h kbabel).  Kapoios to paroysiazei,
   alla meta polloi asxoloyntai me ayto (hands-on)
   kai o paroysiazwn einai ekei gia apories kai bohtheia.

   Gia paradeigma, nomizw oti tha eixe aphxhsh (me thn ennoia oti
   arketoi tha theloyn na doyn kai na kanoyn) ena thema
   "installation enos paketoy apo sources", opoy kapoios
   ekshgei kai deixnei to "src download, tar, configure, ..."
   kai meta o kathenas sthnei kati monos toy.

- kanonikh doyleia gia ena thema, alla apo atoma poy kseroyn
  to sygkekrimeno antikeimeno kai exoyn kanei kapoia sxetikh
  pro-ergasia.  Gia thn prwth fora kalo htan to "start from scratch",
  alla opws eidame den paei makria.  Na exoyme themata,
  na exoyme proetoimastei kapws (synneonhseis mesw mail prin)
  kai na ekmetalleytoyme ton xrono fysikhs paroysias
  oso to dynaton kalytera.

  P.x. gia synexeia doyleias se groff h gia to polling software,
  tha proteina ayto to montello.


> *dict

Einai to olo thema twn ellhnikwn leksewn.  Apo dict, spell,
translation, klp.  Ki ayto thelei organwsh.


Telos, erwthsh pros to koino :-)
O "dhmokratikos" tropos organwshs toy 1oy workshop
(grafoyme ta themata ki epi topoy, analoga me th diathesh toy kosmoy,
apofasizoyme ti na kanoyme) sas bolepse ?  H mhpws na exoyme orisei
akribes programma (kata to dynaton) ek twn proterwn ?
Emena profanws moy arese (idiaitera gia 1o workshop),
alla an h pleiopshfia thelei fixed agenda (px. gia na erthei
mono se ena tmhma, ki oxi olo to Sabbatokyriako), na to frontisoyme.

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