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Re: Hmerida OBI

Afhsa na perasei mia mera kai eipa na grasw ki egw ti apekomisa...

Epityxhmenh, tha elega, h ekdhlwsh.  Egine sta plaisia
toy "Antagwnisthkothta", opoy o OBI (Organismos Biomhxanikhs
Idiokthsias) gyrnaei ana thn Ellada kai paroysiazei ti kanei
kai pws na bohthhsei.

H bohtheia egkeitai sth xorhghsh DE (diplwma eyresitexnias, "patent"),
xorhghsh ki allwn (PYX, biomhxaniko sxedio, klp.), alla kai
ws phgh plhroforiwn.

Tha anaferw elaxista shmeia poy thewrw oti endiaferoyn th lista:

1. DE (patent) se ti ?
Ypraxei basikh "filosofikh" diafora gia to pws doyleyei se Eyrwph/Amerikh. 
Sthn US mporeis na prostatepseis ta panta ("anything under the sun").
Sthn Eyrwph (kai sthn Ellada) mono ena epinohma neo (pagkosmiws), poy
emperiexei efeyretikh drasthriothta (den einai, dhl., kati profanes),
kai einai epidektiko biomhxanikhs efarmoghs.
Diethnws ginontai kinhseis enarmonismoy, alla to xasma agefyrwto.

Gia to software egine para poly koybenta (dysanaloga, kata th gnwmh moy),
opws eipe ki o k. Soldatos.  To basiko thetiko (kata th gnwmh moy,
kai pali), einai oti me to isxyon systhma se Eyrwph (kai Ellada),
an thelei kapoios na katoxyrwsei kati prepei na einai "neo" --
ws ek toytoy opoiadhpote sxetikh dhmosieysh to akyrwnei.  Ara
h yparksh kai mono enos progenesteroy programmatos open-source
apagoreyei to "kleidwma" me patenta.  Symperasma: dhmosieyete
o,ti efeyriskete (an protimate, parte patentes prwta :-).

Gia DE se software, sthn Ellada mexri stigmhs isxyei mono
o 2121/92 (peri pneymatikhs idiokthsias), oxi tipota eidiko.
Ara to logismiko anagnwrizetai ws ergo pneymatikhs idiokthsias
(to sygkekrimeno software), oxi oi idees kai methodoi.
Fysika, opws eipe ki o. Soldatos, einai se prospatheia enarmonishs
me Eyrwph, kai ektimoyn oti mexri telos 2003 tha exoyn yiothethsei
o,ti antistoixo exei perasei ekei.

To oti "oi idees kai methodoi den katoxyrwnontai" apo th syzhthsh
bghke oti mallon thewria einai, mia poy mporeis na katoxyrwseis
th sygkekrimenh efarmogh toy se sygkekrimeno yliko (hardware)
poy exei plhrws texnika apotelesmata (poy zhtoyntai)...


2. se poion ?
Kanonika se efeyreth (fysiko proswpo).  Alla (prosoxh edw),
an exeis symbash gia anaptyksh, anhkei ston ergodoth !!!
Ypotithetai oti tha soy dwsei eylogh amoibh, alla einai dikia toy.
H symbash den einai anagkh na leei oti einai eidika gia thn anaptyksh
toy sygkekrimenoy apotelesmatos.  Gia paradeigma, opoios exei
symbash me Panepisthmio gia "yphresies ereynas kai anaptyskhs"
kai ftiaksei kati, ta dikaiwmata pane aytomatws sto Panepisthmio !  Aaaa!
(BTW, idiws me ton 2121, gia tis symbaseis me to dhmosio,
eimaste xamenoi apo xeri).
Telos, an thn efeyresh thn ekanes mono soy, den exeis symbash gia anaptyksh,
alla xrhsimopoihses ylika, mesa, h/kai plhrofories toy ergodoth,
o xwrismos einai 60% dika soy kai 40% ths etaireias.
Se oles tis periptwseis, an toys peis eggrafws oti brhkes kati
kai aytoi se 4 mhnes den exoyn pei oti to theloyn, einai diko soy.


3. plhroforhsh
Ta DE einai dhmosia eggrafa ki oxi aporrhta.  Mporoyn na
xrhsimopoioyntai ws phgh plhroforiwn, opws mia bibliothhkh.
Fysika to psaksimo einai panta kalytero na ginetai apo epaggelmaties.

Links gia psaksimo, poy exoyn patentes online (ana xwra):
	www.obi.gr		GR
	www.espacenet.com	EU
	www.epo.org		EU
	www.epoline.org		EU
	www.wipo.int		world
	www.uspto.gov		US
	www.inpi.fr		FR
	www.depatisnet.com	DE
	www.patent.gov.uk	UK


Telos, mia poly xrhsimh epishmansh poy bghke apo tis telikes erwthseis:
Yparxei to "intellectual property" -- ellhnisti "Dianohtikh Idiokthsia".
Ayto exei dyo skelh:
- thn pneymatikh idiokthsia (ths dianoias), kai
- th biomhxanikh idiokthsia.

Nomika mesa gia to deytero einai ta diplwmata eyresitexnias (patentes),
ta biomhxanika sxedia, ta ypodeigmata, ta shmata, kai alla.
Armodia arxh (sthn Ellada) einai o OBI.

Nomika mesa gia to prwto einai to copyright (kai alla?).
Armodia arxh (sthn Ellada) einai o OPI (Organismos Pneymatikhs Idiokthsias).
BTW, o proanafertheis nomos 2121 (poy kalyptei kai to software) brethhke sto:
	http://www.culture.gr/6/64/law2121_gr.html


Oyf, ayta.

Opoios thelei perissoteres leptomereies, as me rwtshei,
sto Palm exw arketa notes poy den exei nohma na steilw se oloys.

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