On Sun, Jun 19, 2005 at 04:45:04PM +0300, Alexios Zavras wrote: > Petros Velonis wrote [edited]: > > O/H Alexios Zavras έγραψε: > > >Ti exei na prosferei sta melh toy UKUUG to Hellug ? > > > > Tipota. Poios diafonei; > > Egw! Fysika mporei na prosferei diafora, alla thelei doyleia... > Mporoume na xekinisoume deila apo kapou... > > > >Ola ta parapanw apo makra empeiria synallagwn me sxetikes organwseis > > >(EUUG, UKUUG, EurOpen, USENIX, SAGE, NLUUG, SANE, ...) > > > > Mhpos mporeis na doseis perissoteres plhrofories gia tis organoseis > > autes? (oxi kat' anagkh gia thn UKUUG poy einai national). Ektos apo > > ekptosh se conferences ti allo prosferoun; Isos ginoun paradeigma gia emas. > > Koytsompolistikes plhrofories: > > NLUUG - Netherlands Unix Users' Group: ki ayto poly palio, ksekopse > nwris apo to Eyrwpaiko kyklo kai proskollhse sthn Amerikh, > poly stenoys desmoys me Usenix, polles conferences klp. > Fetos trigmoi sta eswterika, leptomereies apo bdomada > poy tha toys dw... > Nai tha itan endiaferon na tis mathoume... > Usenix - twra ti na pw ? selides epi selidwn poy de tha grapsw twra. > > SAGE - Systems Administrator's Guild - mexri perisy group toy Usenix, > twra aposxisthke kai egine aytodynamh organwsh, aytes tis meres > (mexri 24 toy mhnos) ekloges gia neo D.S. kai kateythynsh. > Kaneis de mporei na problepsei to mellon toy. > Eixan toso provlima na einai group sto USENIX? > SANE - ksekinhse apo conference, egine aytoysios organismos (me basiko > antikeimeno thn conference). Leptomereies se epomeno mail, > mia poy thelw na sas kalesw oloys (eimai program chair gia to 2006) > Kat' arxas sygxaritiria gia tin eklogi os chair. To proigoumeno synedrio itan mia kali empeiria. Ta tutorials itan ypsilou epipedou, to idio kai o kosmos pou to parakolouthise/symmeteixe. H organosi toy itan episis artia (eyxomai na vgike akri me ta oikonomika). Nomizo oti einai kerdos gia tin Europi na yparxoun kai na enisxyontai tetoia gegonota giati kaka ta psemmata eimaste poly piso apo tin Ameriki. Tha theorousa poly endiaferouses o,ti prospatheies tha mporousan na ginoun gia na symmetexoume pio energa kai emeis os Ellines se tetoia gegonota. To NLUUG den tha stirizei to SANE pia? > > Oyf, ayta... > > Ti prosferoyn sta melh toys ? > Analoga apo to megethos kai th dynamikothta toys. > Aytoi poy kanoyn conferences synhthws exoyn ekptwseis gia melh. > Merikoi exoyn symfwnies me ekdotikoys oikoys (O'Reilly, p.x.) > gia kalyteres times. H me bibliopwleia (online). > H me diafora proionta (Sun, Seagate, k.a.). Ayta sthn Amerikh, basika. > > A, oles oi symfwnies einai country-specific -- den pa na'sai > melos Usenix sthn Ellada, exases, den exeis tipota edw :-( > > Eidikes ekdoseis gia ta melh: apo newsletter mexri special booklets, > mexri salary survey gia na deis oti oi alloi pairnoyn perissotera > apo sena kai na paraponetheis sto afentiko soy. > > Ti allo ? (en opsei eklogwn eixame thn idia koybenta sto SAGE prosfata) > Job boards -- aggelies. A! mailing lists, thematic. > Kapoia apo ayta ta pronomia isos na mporousan na organothoun kai stin Ellada. > Eeee, done. Ayta thymamai, ws paroxes organwsewn pros ta melh toys. > Kala, min agxonesai, arketes oi plirofories. Kai pali sygxaritiria kai eimaste edo gia kales prospatheies pou xreiazontai stirixi, gia na voithisoume opos mporoume. > -- > -- zvr -- > -- +---------------------------+ Alexios Zavras (-zvr-) > | H eytyxia den exei enoxes | zvr [ at ] pobox [ dot ] com > +-----------------------zvr-+ > > _______________________________________________ > Open-source mailing list > Open-source [ at ] grnet [ dot ] gr -- Kostas Zorbadelos m@il contact: kzorba (at) otenet.gr