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Re: GSoC HashesDB

So if i want to search and answer  whether this file has been already seen
i cannot just check if its sha-1 is available , because it might not be
stored and maybe its sha-2  is stored. This will lead to counting and
searching for all the allowed hash functions?

Στις Τετ, 31 Μαρ 2021 στις 4:39 μ.μ., ο/η Alexios Zavras <zvr+eellak [ at ] zvr [ dot ] gr>
έγραψε:

> OK, yes, you are correct that there might be
> a number of hashes for each file.
> So the database may include:
> - sha1(file1)  == 0x1234...
> - sha1(file2)  == 0x5678...
> - sha2(file2)  == 0xABCD...
>
> Is your question how are these queried?
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 31, 2021, at 09:41, Nikolaos Sokos wrote:
> > Lets say we have a database that stores multiple hash values (for
> > example sha1 , sha2-256) with multihash representation as you
> > suggested. "For each file, a number of distinct hashes" this is where
> > my question comes, for every file we must have the same hash functions
> > and the corresponding hash values or can for example : File1 --> sha1
> > --> hash value-1 that is stored on database . File2 --> sha1 -->hash
> > value2-1 & File2 --> sha2-256 --> hash value 2.2 and both stored . If
> > we use multihash we can easily find out which hash function we use but
> > when we try to search if a file has been seen again we dont know that
> > hash value exists and we have to check for every allowed hash function.
> > I hope this helps .
> > Thanks for your immediate response,
> > Nikos
> >
> > Στις Τετ, 31 Μαρ 2021 στις 10:19 π.μ., ο/η Alexios Zavras
> > <zvr+eellak [ at ] zvr [ dot ] gr <mailto:zvr%2Beellak [ at ] zvr [ dot ] gr>> έγραψε:
> > > Yes, of course there will be a database.
> > > Maybe I misunderstood your initial question
> > > and answered something different...
> > > I thought you were asking about how to ensure
> > > the integrity of "our" database if we were allowing
> > > users to "upload" hashes.
> > >
> > > Can you repeat (using other words) your question, please --
> > > or give an example so that I can better understand?
> > >
> > > On Wed, Mar 31, 2021, at 08:40, Nikolaos Sokos wrote:
> > > > Thank you for the clarification but I am still a bit lost. Even if
> we
> > > > don't have to collect data, shouldn't we know or create Database
> > > > structure? So we can maintain and search it faster?
> > > >
> > > > Στις Τετ, 31 Μαρ 2021 στις 8:36 π.μ., ο/η Alexios Zavras
> > > > <zvr+eellak [ at ] zvr [ dot ] gr <mailto:zvr%2Beellak [ at ] zvr [ dot ] gr> <mailto:
> zvr%2Beellak [ at ] zvr [ dot ] gr <mailto:zvr%252Beellak [ at ] zvr [ dot ] gr>>> έγραψε:
> > > > > HI Nikos, thanks for your interest.
> > > > >
> > > > > The goal of the project is to create software
> > > > > that creates, maintains, and searches a database of hashes.
> > > > > It is not to offer a service nor to collect data of such a
> database.
> > > > >
> > > > > Therefore there is no "our Database" where a user
> > > > > might "wants a file hash to be stored into",
> > > > > no files to be uploaded or anything like that.
> > > > >
> > > > > I hope it's a little clearer now.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Mar 31, 2021, at 03:27, Nikolaos Sokos wrote:
> > > > > > Greetings,
> > > > > > My name is Nikolaos Sokos and I am currently studying  Computer
> > > > > > Engineering and Informatics at Patras,Greece.I have a question
> about
> > > > > > the project : Lets say a user wants a file hash to be stored
> into our
> > > > > > Database should every hash value accepted be calculated and
> saved or
> > > > > > can the user choose the type of hashing. The main problem if the
> user
> > > > > > can choose is that when for example the same file is uploaded
> but with
> > > > > > another hashing we have to recalculate every acceptable hash and
> check
> > > > > > if it is already stored (or look for a better solution?) What
> does the
> > > > > > project suggest ? Should we save every single hash or find a way
> to
> > > > > > check if different hash value is stored?
> > > > > > I really hope I made my point clear,
> > > > > > Thanks for your time ,
> > > > > > Nikos
> > > > > >
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