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Re: Format Odigon.

Agaphtoi filoi,

Ta X-windows einai akadhmaikh ereynhtikh doyleia me poly aysthres prodiagrafes sygkrothmenwn omadwn aristwn epaggelmatiwn kai akadhmaikwn toy MIT kai ths XEROX kai me kapoia symeetoxh ths IBM. Kai to Linux einai basika dhmioyrghma enos poly proikismenoy an8rwpoy poy ekpaideythke se aristo akadhmaiko periballon panw sth doyleia enos alloy megaloy twn leitoyrgikwn systhmatwn - tou Tanenbaum (MINIX). H metepeita symplhrwsh toy einai sygkritika poly mikrhs aksias. Paramenei to gegonos oti akoma kai stis 'symplhrwseis' toy Linux doulepsan an8rwpoi me koino gnwstiko pedio, ypsilhs poiothtas kai pei8arxias pragma sxedon adynato na epanalhf8ei sta perissotera gnwstika pedia me ta shmerina ergaleia. 
Ena megalo problhma -kai yparxoyn polla alla- me thn antilhpsh poy exoyme dextei gia thn anaptyksh anoixtoy logismikoy einai oti ta xarakthristika tou odhgoyn sthn anaptyksh gnwstikwn kai synepws oikonomikwn diamantiwn ekei opou yparxoyn nwritera omades sygkritika ypsiloterwn ikanothtwn kai wrimothtas kai oi ypoloipoi mporei aplws na katalhgoyn poly kaloi metafrastes h pistopoihmenoi xrhstes - ti eixes Giannh'm ti eixa panta. An den epilhf8ei o dhmosios tomeas na dwsei kinhtra gia anaptyksh dhmosioy anoixtoy logismikoy gia na diathrhsh kai na anaptyksei twn ikanothtwn anaptykshs logismikoy se e8nika kai perifereiaka epipeda - estw Eyrwphs - to paignidi einai sxedon xameno. Me ta 8ola lisences kai ton agwna elegxoy twn dianomwn 8a psaxnomaste kai 8a pa8oyme megales oikjonomikes niles. 

Me ektimhsh

Giwrgos Mplanas




Quoting Alexandros Diamantidis <adia [ at ] noc [ dot ] uoa [ dot ] gr>:

> * blanas [ at ] teilar [ dot ] gr [2003-05-16 16:28]:
> > 
> > Symfwnw me ton Alexio. H istoria deixnei oti kai sto software, ta diamantia
> 
> > opws linux kai X-windows den eginan me to bazaaar model. Kai an eginan
> kapoia 
> > pragmata einai epeidh doylepsan eidikoi an8rwpoi me koinh gnwsh kai
> pei8axia 
> > se periorismena domain, pragma pou genikotera den isxyei. To bazaar model 
> > einai h apopsh enos oikonomologou pou pote den katalabe pws anaptysetai kai
> 
> > pws leitoyrgei to logismiko. Yparxoyn terastia kena sthn 8ewria ayth.
> 
> Ôá ðáñáðÜíù äåí åßíáé áêñéâÞ... Êáôáñ÷Üò, ï Eric Raymond ðïõ êáèéÝñùóå
> ôïí üñï "bazaar model" äåí åßíáé ïéêïíïìïëüãïò áëëÜ ÷Üêåñ (äçëáäÞ
> ðñïãñáììáôéóôÞò). ÅðéðëÝïí, äå ëÝåé áêñéâþò üôé Ýíá Ýñãï ìðïñåß íá
> äçìéïõñãçèåß áðü ôï ìçäÝí ìå ÷áëáñÞ óõíåñãáóßá äåêÜäùí Þ åêáôïíôÜäùí
> áôüìùí. Áíôßèåôá, ëÝåé üôé ç áñ÷éêÞ ìïñöÞ ôïõ Ýñãïõ åßíáé áðïôÝëåóìá
> åðéêåíôñùìÝíçò äïõëåéÜò Ýíïò ðñïãñáììáôéóôÞ, Þ ìéáò êëåéóôÞò ïìÜäáò
> áôüìùí ðïõ óõíåñãÜæïíôáé óôåíÜ. Áöïý üìùò Ý÷åé äçìéïõñãçèåß ç áñ÷éêÞ
> ìïñöÞ ôïõ Ýñãïõ, ôüôå ìðïñåß íá ìðåé óôç öÜóç ôïõ "bazaar". Ãéá
> ðñïãñÜììáôá, áõôü ðñïûðïèÝôåé íá åßíáé ÷ñÞóéìá êáé íá äïõëåýïõí - áëëéþò
> åßíáé äýóêïëï íá áó÷ïëçèåß êÜðïéá åõñýôåñç êïéíüôçôá ìáæß ôïõò. Ôï
> bazaar óçìáßíåé íá õðÜñ÷ïõí óõ÷íÜ, ðñïïäåõôéêÜ releases ôïõ Ýñãïõ, êáé ç
> åðéêïéíùíßá ôçò ïìÜäáò ôïõ ôï áíáðôýóóåé íá åßíáé áíïé÷ôÞ, Ýôóé þóôå íá
> ìðïñåß üðïéïò èÝëåé íá óõììåôÜó÷åé (ð÷. íá ìðïñåß üðïéïò èÝëåé íá
> äéáâÜóåé ôá áñ÷åßá áðü ôõ÷üí mailing list êáé íá ãñáöôåß ó' áõôÝò, íá
> ìðïñåß íá äåé ôá CVS logs, êëð).
> 
> Ãéá ôï X äåí åßìáé óßãïõñïò ðùò áíáðôý÷èçêå (ðÝñáí ôïõ üôé îåêßíçóå áðü
> ôï Athena Project óôï MIT) áëëÜ ôï Linux áðü ôçí áñ÷Þ áíáðôý÷èçêå ìå ôç
> öéëïóïößá ôïõ bazaar. ÕðÜñ÷ïõí ðáñáäåßãìáôá ðåôõ÷çìÝíùí ðñïãñáììÜôùí ðïõ
> áêïëïõèïýí êáé ôéò äõï öéëïóïößåò, ôïõ "bazaar" êáé ôïõ "cathedral",
> áðëþò ï Raymond ëÝåé üôé ç ðñþôç Ý÷åé óçìáíôéêÜ ðëåïíåêôÞìáôá.
> 
> ¸÷ù áñêåôü êáéñü ðïõ äéÜâáóá ôï "The Cathedral and the Bazaar", ïðüôå ôá
> ðáñáðÜíù ìðïñåß íá ìçí åßíáé ôåëåßùò óùóôÜ. Ôá êåßìåíá ôïõ Raymond åðß
> ôïõ èÝìáôïò âñßóêïíôáé åäþ êáé áîßæåé íá ôá äéáâÜóåôå:
> 
> http://catb.org/~esr/writings/cathedral-bazaar/
> 
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