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Epilogi 'format' ellinikis tekmiriwsis (Htan: Re: [Open-source] Tekmiriwsi kai GNOME2)

  • Subject: Epilogi 'format' ellinikis tekmiriwsis (Htan: Re: [Open-source] Tekmiriwsi kai GNOME2)
  • From: Simos Xenitellis <simos74 [ at ] gmx [ dot ] net>
  • Date: 06 May 2003 23:52:41 +0100
Kalispera,
Elpizw h anakoinwsi gia tin tekmiriwsi tou GNOME2 na exei lifthei yp'
opsin.


Opws anaferthika sto prwto gramma, einai pi8ano me ta ergaleia tis
selidas 
http://cyberelk.net/tim/docbook/index.html
na min einai dinato na parax8oun arxeia DVI/PDF/ktl me ellinika.
Tetoio problima ypirxe prin apo merika xronia xwris mia ikanopoiitiki
lisi. Ekeino to diastima to programma 'jadetex' ekane ti dimiourgia tou
arxeiou DVI kai eixe sobara problimata me ta ellinika. Twra yparxei to
PassiveTex to opoio de gnwrizw an leitoyrgei kala me ellinika.
(Kai ta dyo programmata ta exei grapsei o Sebastian Rantz.)
Me ta ergaleia afta yparxei h metatropi
	DocBook XML -> Endiamesi morfi LaTeX -> DVI -> 					->
PostScript(r)/PDF/ktl

Ostoso, gia to OpenOffice.org yparxei to parakatw ergo (project) gia ti
xrisi DocBook XML gia ti dimiourgia kai epejergasia keimenwn.
http://xml.openoffice.org/xmerge/docbook/

H protasi mou einai 
a. na dokimastei amesa to parakatw 
http://xml.openoffice.org/xmerge/docbook/
gia to an leitoyrgei me ellinika kai na topo8eti8ei sto WWW kapoio
dokimastiko arxeio, se pigaia morfi kai se PDF/PostScript.
To sigkekrimeno ergo einai akoma se dokimi opote isws na min einai
plirws xrisimopoiisimo ws exei.
b. na dokimastei amesa i diadikasia poy perigrafetai sto
http://cyberelk.net/tim/docbook/index.html gia ellinika.

Gia to (a) endexomenws i InterZone na mporei na to dokimasei sta
grigora.
Gia to (b) xreiazetai kapoios me gnwseis toulaxiston LaTeX.

An den leitoyrghsei h lysi gia "DocBook XML" gia paragwgi ejodou
DVI/PS/PDF, oi dio ennalaktikes liseis einai h xrisi ejodou HTML
proswrina i na akolou8isoume to "OpenOffice.org XML".

Parakalw dhlwste an mporeite na analabete ta (a) kai (b).

simos

Στις 05/Μάι/2003, ημέρα Δευτέρα και ώρα 13:49, ο/η Interzone έγραψε:
> Kalispera sas,
> Epi tou thematos, tha proteiname na lifthoun ypopsin oi anagkes twn odigwn kyriws kai meta i protimisi se kapoio format. 
> An kai, apo prwtis opsews, tha proteiname na xrisimopoiithei to TeX ws format giati exei dynatotites typesetting pou boithoun stin katanoisi tou antikeimenou, eidika gia ta GUI programmata, einai safes oti episis apodekto apotelesma paragoun ta OpenOffice.org, HTML klp, alla i emfanisi ston teliko xristi oso proxwrame se alla periorismena formats opws DocBook. SGML klp ginetai olo kai pio "elleipis" (p.x elleipsi hyphenation /eikonwn/justification klp klp klp).
> 
> Symperasmatika loipon, thewroume oti tin kalyteri "isorropia" metaksy portability, emfanisis (simantikis gia tous telikous xristes) alla kai eyxristias gia tous syggrafontes to opoiodipote egxeiridio, tin parexei to OpenOffice.org to opoio stin parousa fasi mporei (me i xwris periorismous sto export kata periptwsi) na dimioyrgisei output se native morfi (sxw), morfi MS Word (.doc), morfi Acrobat Reader (.pdf), morfi Postscript (.ps), morfi Flat XML (.xml) kai DocBook xml (.xml), morfi HTML kai XHTML, morfi Text (.txt) kai telos morfi TeX (kati to opoio me tin "paraksenia" twn ellinikwn einai mallon adynaton na doulepsei swsta, ektos kai an ta kataferoume me to Omega).
> 
> Os ek toutou, i protasi mas einai safws yper tou OO.org
> Telos, kalo tha einai ayto na ksekatharistei to syntomotero dynato gia na anatethoun kai oi ergasies sta katallila atoma, kai na ginoun oi antistoixes apofaseis apeikonisis tou apotelesmatos.
> 
> InterZone
> 
> On Mon, 05 May 2003 15:02:50 +0300
> Dimitris Korbetis <korb [ at ] uth [ dot ] gr> wrote:
> 
> > Me tin efkairia afth tha hthela na epishmanw oti akomh den exoume katalhksei se ti format
> > tha graftoun oi odigoi para mono sto oti tha prepei na einai anoixto kai koino gia olous
> > tous odigous.
> > 
> > Opos proteinei kai o Simos to DocBook XML fainetai h kalliteri epilogi mia pou einai 
> > efkolotero kai to yposthrizei to openoffice 1.1. 
> > 
> > 
> > Simos Xenitellis wrote:
> > > [Ta parakatw einai gia tin tekmiriwsi tou GNOME2. Pistebw oti to yliko
> > > tis tekmiriwsis 8a einai xrisimo gia ti dimiourgia tou ellinikou odigou
> > > xrisis. Epipleon, ta parakatw einai xrisima gia tin epilogi tis morfis
> > > DocBook XML ws 'format' gia tin elliniki tekmiriwsi.]
> > > 
> > > Ystera apo sizitisi sti lista gnome-doc-list, ta newtera arxeia
> > > tekmiriwsis tou GNOME2 briskontai sto sindesmo:
> > > 
> > > http://www.gnome.org/learn/
> > > 
> > > opou simperilambanontai:
> > > 1. Introduction to GNOME
> > > 2. GNOME User's Guide
> > > 3. GNOME Accessibility Guide
> > > 4. GNOME 2 Desktop System Administrator's Guide
> > > 
> > > O pigaios kwdikas tis tekmiriwsis twn keimenwn briskete sto CVS tou
> > > GNOME, paketo 'gnome-user-docs'.
> > > 
> > > Gia ti lipsi tous, trejte:
> > > % setenv CVSROOT ':pserver:anonymous [ at ] anoncvs [ dot ] gnome [ dot ] org:/cvs/gnome'
> > > % cvs login   
> > > CVS password:    <Patiste Enter>
> > > % cvs -z3 checkout gnome-user-docs
> > > 
> > > Sto CVS yparxoun ta parakatw ta opoia den briskontai akoma stin parapanw
> > > selida WWW:
> > > 1) Glossary (se morfi lejikou, a) leksi kai c) ejigisi)
> > > 2) Unix-primer (biblio gia ti xrisi Unix)
> > > 
> > > H morfi tvn keimenwn einai "DocBook XML". Afti einai i protinwmeni morfi
> > > gia eleftheri tekmiriwsi. Sto linuxdoc.org ginetai metafora apo LinuxDoc
> > > se DocBook XML. Yparxei kai 'DocBook SGML' to opoio einai pio periploko
> > > apo to 'DocBook XML'. Sinistatai to 'DocBook XML'.
> > > 
> > > Gia ti metatropi apo DocBook XML se HTML ginetai xrisi tou programmatos
> > > 'xsltproc'. To (neo) programma boitheias 'yelp' tou GNOME2 xrisimopoiei
> > > to xsltproc eswterika gia tin amesi metatropi apo .xml se .html.
> > > Kapoios mporei na kanei to idio me
> > > % yelp ghelp:/path/to/docbookxmlfile
> > > 
> > > O Tim Waugh paketarei tin tekmiriwsi tis Red Hat kai stin selida tou
> > > ([2]) yparxoun poly xrisimes plirofories gia ti diadikasia.
> > > 
> > > simos
> > > 
> > > Piges:
> > > 1. Lista gnome-doc-list, Alexander Kirillov <kirillov [ at ] math [ dot ] sunysb [ dot ] edu>
> > > 2. http://cyberelk.net/tim/docbook/index.html, Tim Waugh
> > > 
> > > p.s.
> > > Gia opoion endiaferetai, oi parakatw "douleies" einai dia8esimes gia
> > > analipsi kai enimerwsi sti lista.
> > > 
> > > a. Dokimi paragwgis ellinikvn apo eggrafa DocBook XML. H morfi ejodou
> > > HTML den parousiazei problima. Isws yparjei problima me ti morfi PDF.
> > > b. Dokimi programmatwn epejergasias eggrafwn DocBook XML kai protasi gia
> > > genikoteri xrisi. Yparxoun polla gia na dialejei kapoios..
> > > freshmeat.net.
> > > c. "Last but not least", metafrasi tis tekmiriwsis tou GNOME2 sta
> > > ellinika.





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